EPISODE 505

Reset & Heal with Kyle Peche

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Hosted By Stephan Spencer
Kyle Peche

Introduction

Kyle Peche
"Mineral balancing is a precise method for restoring a person's mineral levels and correcting imbalances. "
Kyle Peche

Hidden within our most daunting health challenges often lies a path to transformation that conventional medicine overlooks. For those battling chronic illness, the journey to healing sometimes reveals not just physical recovery, but profound spiritual awakening and life purpose.

My guest on today’s show, Kyle Peche, spent seven years battling debilitating chronic fatigue, brain fog, and panic attacks that left him barely able to function. His brain fog was so severe he couldn't hold basic conversations, he could only tolerate four foods, and even simple daily tasks felt insurmountable. It wasn't until hitting rock bottom that he discovered the missing pieces: mineral balancing and systematic detoxification.

In our conversation, we explore the hidden impact of environmental toxins like glyphosate and heavy metals, the crucial role of minerals in healing, and why many detox protocols fail without the right foundation. Kyle shares his remarkable journey, revealing how proper detoxification unlocked not just physical healing but deeper states of consciousness. Through ancient sacred texts and Sanskrit mantras, he found the spiritual strength to persist - and ultimately discovered his life's purpose helping others heal.

This episode will reveal powerful insights about the intersection of physical detoxification and spiritual awakening, so without any further ado, on with the show!

In this Episode

  • [01:18]Stephan introduces Kyle Peche, sharing his struggle with chronic fatigue, brain fog, and panic attacks.
  • [07:29]Kyle explains mineral balancing as a foundational healing method for optimizing the body’s biochemistry and energy production.
  • [12:57]Kyle highlights the widespread presence of glyphosate and aluminum toxicity, emphasizing the need for targeted detoxification.
  • [19:54]Kyle explores the impact of environmental toxins on the body’s detoxification pathways and overall health.
  • [22:38]Kyle suggests using both infrared and traditional saunas to support detoxification.
  • [25:15]Kyle identifies common symptoms of leaky gut, such as bloating, food sensitivities, brain fog, joint pain, and inflammation.
  • [29:07]Kyle shares his personal experience with leaky gut, including constipation and limited food tolerance.
  • [33:39]Kyle reflects on the role of spiritual practices in his healing journey.
  • [43:24]Kyle outlines his healing program incorporating mineral balancing, detoxification phases, and education.
  • [47:02]Kyle details how to work with him and the steps to begin his healing program.

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Kyle, it’s so great to have you on the show.

It’s a great pleasure. Thanks for having me.

Let’s start with your story. How did you hit rock bottom in terms of your health, and how did you climb out of it?

As far as I could remember, I had always had a low-level brain fog kind of disassociation. I always felt like I was floating above my body. It’s difficult to describe that just with words, but it’s a very bizarre feeling. Nothing was really real, and yet I was still able to function relatively well. From the outside, I looked completely normal. Everyone thought I was totally fine. I was even an athlete in high school, playing soccer. 

I still always felt like I was not able to hit that next gear in my performance, and I couldn’t really figure out why. Around 18, some emotional trauma really just broke me down. It was kind of the straw that broke the camel’s back. My body collapsed seemingly overnight. I fell into really deep chronic fatigue, sleeping 14 hours a day and having the absolute worst panic attacks, anxiety, and brain fog. 

My brain fog was so bad I could not hold a normal conversation with people. I could not recall the last sentence that was just said. They say, “Oh, I lose my train of thought.” But I didn’t have any rails for my train of thought to even go on. It was a really screwed-up situation. I was supposed to be in my prime. I also could only tolerate four foods, and I was sensitive to absolutely everything. 

It sent me down a really obsessive path to figure out why I was feeling this way and what to do to get better. I started where everyone does conventional medicine. I went to loads of specialists. Most of them just gaslit me and told me it was in my own head. Some listened but offered no real remedies, and most just gave me medications to try. Then, I went down the alternative medicine route and found many of the same tendencies and similarities. 

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I’m just trying to blanket it with symptomatic remedies and focusing on the test, not the person. I went in circles with many functional medicine practitioners and naturopaths and then went to Chinese medicine. I tried every kind of diet you could imagine—vegan, carnivore, keto, etc. I was fasting for days at a time. I did one meal a day. I did a full elimination diet. Then, I stopped caring. Then I went back to it. 

It was a real roller coaster. Not to mention, I spent hundreds of thousands on practitioner supplements. I had more supplements than I had freaking food items in my kitchen. It was pretty crazy.

Wow. How many supplements? Over a hundred?

Yeah, easily over a hundred. There was this constant tendency to try something. I think it would help. I’d tell everyone about it, so stoked about it, and then I would just go back to where I was. Then, I tried to address all these things at the same time, but I never really got to the core of my issue. My symptoms just kept getting worse. But eventually, by the grace of God, I hit rock bottom, and my own will kind of ran its course. 

I really just prayed for a solution. I didn’t know what else to do. I was just like, “Hey, send me the right thing. I’m willing to let go of everything I know.” One coincidence led to another. I was on a Zoom call with a couple of healers, and one told me about mineral balancing and detoxification. I’m like, “Wow, I’ve never explored this.” So, I let go of everything I was doing before and fully committed to that. And essentially, within six months, I had my life back.

When you’re fighting to live everyday life, you feel like you’re carrying a huge boulder of toxins. However, it will develop a lot of willpower as well.

Within a year and a half, I was healthier than I was ever in my life, just leaps and bounds. Not just that. I was getting to that point of health where I didn’t feel like I needed to take anything. I felt that natural resilience, not to mention the effect that it has to get all the toxins out of my nervous system. It really just kind of awakened me. I didn’t realize how much depth of feeling there was available to me in my everyday life, communication, music, artistic endeavors, and life itself. I had never really realized how much I could never really feel. That’s the short of it. Several years later, I kind of naturally just started sharing what I was shared with, things that were shared with people who needed it. I eventually became a coach. This is what I do now.

How many years ago was it that you got your life back?

I’d say about three and a half years now.

Pretty fresh.

I’m still diving into everything life has to offer. It feels like I’m making up for lost time, which is great, actually.

So, what exactly is mineral balancing? I’m not familiar with this concept. I know about fulvic and humic minerals. I know they are important. I take a supplement, but other than that, I’m clueless.

Metals like to try to insert themselves in the same places that minerals are, as well as other toxins.

The best way to describe it is you’re essentially trying to optimize the body’s biochemistry and its energy production and giving it what it needs, such that it has all the energy it needs to heal itself. It is not just to heal itself but also to allow you to use that energy as you will in your life. It’s a foundational style of healing where you are rebuilding the body from the ground up. It’s important because of how common mineral deficiencies are. 

It’s a generational issue now. Generations of depleted soil, processed foods, and stressful, unnatural lifestyles activate our stress responses and cause us to use the same minerals already low in people, not to mention the competition in our enzyme binding sites for metals. Metals like to try to insert themselves in the same places that minerals are, as well as other toxins. 

It’s a very compounded issue. It’s one of the core reasons people feel weak, fatigued, and tired—mineral imbalances and deficiencies. Mineral balancing is a really precise way of restoring a person’s mineral levels and bringing minerals that are out of balance into balance. For example, manganese. It could be in the wrong forms and cause toxicity instead of in the right forms, giving the benefits it does to the nervous system and glucose regulation. 

Hair mineral analysis guides this process. It involves examining the minerals in the hair as they deposit over three to four months. Dr. Paul Eck and several other doctors developed this science within their think tank, guided by about five to sixty years of research and millions of hair tests. They generally found that as people became healthier and healthier, they came closer and closer to certain ideal levels and ratios. The whole goal is to push the minerals into those ideal ratios and levels, and people heal themselves. That’s one aspect. That’s one tool in the toolbox that’s very useful.

Who is that doctor that you mentioned?

Dr. Paul Eck is a biochemist by training. He was a great researcher. He loved reading scientific research in all fields, so I would say it’s an expansive field.

Okay, and he’s passed, or is he still around?

He’s passed.

Weren’t you guided at some point earlier when you’re doing all these tests—blood tests, maybe stool tests, gut health, and various types of tests and all this sort of stuff—by a practitioner to do a hair test?

I eventually was. That was my first experience with it.

Okay, so it took you months of trying all those other things before that mineral expert finally told you to do thfat hair test.

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Essentially. After a long journey with many other practitioners, I found the missing piece. The missing piece taught me and tied everything I had learned together. Although I had been exploring detoxification a bit before that, this foundation gave my body the energy and resilience it needed to handle deep detoxification.

You did heavy metal testing before, and you did a chelation protocol. Is that right?

I did try a chelation before that, and it was not fun. It was very bad. It was a nightmare. My interpretation of it is that it redistributes heavy metals into more sensitive areas. I had a worsening of my symptoms that didn’t go away. Little did I know that the way that I was approaching it and being told to approach it was unwise. Medical chelators and even natural chelators should be used instead of focusing on binding and drainage and supporting the body to handle detoxification. 

I really cannot skip steps, and I made those mistakes. I skipped steps in the chelation. I skipped steps trying parasite cleansing right away. These were all things that made me a lot worse. I’ve also seen them make people a lot worse because they skipped steps.

Yeah, I know. There’s a Binder from CellCore. There’s CytoDetox from Dr. Pompa. Dr. Pompa, by the way, was a guest on this podcast a few years ago. It’s crazy how much heavy metals, glyphosate, microplastics, and all this junk is in our tissues. That’s shocking.

There are 87,000 new chemicals in our environment this year, many untested. And yet, people should not get into the thought loop that “everything is toxic; therefore, I shouldn’t care.” There are things to focus on, such as a certain hierarchy of toxins that do the most damage because they actually will shut down our detox pathways, like glyphosate. It’ll shut down cytochrome P450, phase one liver detoxification and block everything. 

It’ll also create a leaky gut, which blocks everything. Mercury is just unbelievably toxic, clogging the kidneys and damaging the enzymes that we need for detoxification. So, take that approach of focusing on the most common ones. Everyone has glyphosate. You can find it in pretty much everyone’s urine. Or aluminum—I’ve found it in every hair test I’ve ever done. Aluminum is high, and literally everyone can see it high in the rain and the snow. It’s a huge issue. 

But when you focus on these instead of getting lost in the details, the flame retardants, or the PCBs and all that, and you’re just trying to live life in a little bubble, I think it’s a lot better to be focused that way because then you give your body the resilience to handle everything.

What do you do to ameliorate the massive amount of glyphosate and aluminum our listener, hopefully not, but probably has in their body?

Mercury is just unbelievably toxic, clogging the kidneys and damaging the enzymes that we need for detoxification.

I follow a pretty simple order of operations for people. It changes from person to person, but I generally start by reducing both glyphosate and aluminum and binding and supporting drainage. I do that with different fulvic products. There’s definitely a variance in quality between good and bad fulvic products, like Shilajit, which you may find on Amazon, versus things like CellCore, which has really good carbon technology—really good fulvic products. 

I also like ION Gut Support by Zach Bush. It’s absolutely phenomenal and great for reducing a person’s glyphosate load. I like Matrix Minerals by BioPure. Dr. Klinghardt, an absolute genius in this field, advised and formulated it. I find it really helpful for reducing a glyphosate load.

By the way, what about beam minerals?

I haven’t explored BEAM minerals, but heard good things about it.

Okay. I had Caroline Alan on this podcast, which was a great episode. She co-founded BEAM. The supplement I take daily is their fulvic and humic minerals.

I’ve heard really good things about it. It’s not something I’ve explored personally yet. I’m sure you’ve experienced this. When you reduce your glyphosate load, there is general healing of the microbiome, but also a reduction of the leaky gut and proof of sensitivities, especially towards gluten. Since there is a tight correlation between a person’s glyphosate load and gluten sensitivity, there is actually also an improvement in mental health. 

That’s significant because glyphosate damages the microbes in our gut that help produce the neurotransmitters we need from our gut. So are the aromatic amino acids that are the building blocks for those neurotransmitters. This is Dr. Stephanie Seneff’s research. It’s absolutely fascinating to dive into, but it’s just something I’ve noticed. It’s a great starting point. Now, for aluminum, the remedy really is silica because, in nature, you only really find aluminum in conjunction with silica. 

Glyphosate damages the microbes in our gut that help produce the neurotransmitters we need from our gut.

You don’t really find aluminum by itself. It’s a more modern manufactured thing that we see all this nanonized isolated aluminum, and it’s pretty nefarious. But it’s also a pretty simple remedy, thank God. Different Zeolite products can do a good job, though it really depends on the zeolite. There are a lot of really bad zeolites again. But CytoDetox, I know, is good. It’s definitely not something to start with for people. That’s more of an advanced kind of product I’ve found. 

But things like ZeoBind by BioPure were found to be really helpful. ZeoCharge is another good zeolite product. I also like other forms of silica. Even something like horsetail tincture can be really helpful. BioSil and choline-stabilized silica are like liposomal silica, which reduces aluminum in the brain. People have their brains light up from that product. Also, when you reduce aluminum, I mean it’s tightly correlated to Alzheimer’s and autism, so on both ends, it creates brain fog and foggy-mindedness in between. When you reduce that, you have that massive improvement in cognition. But it is also a very potent mitochondrial poison. It has a pretty big impact in terms of your overall energy levels. Once you get it down, people come back online in many different ways. So it’s great.

Awesome. What is a typical person’s exposure and toxicity level in terms of aluminum versus, let’s say, mercury? Are they more mercury or aluminum toxic, or what are you finding?

It depends on several factors. Has the person had amalgam fillings? Did their mothers actually have amalgam fillings? Because it is a generational thing. Mercury doesn’t really just go away like that. Do they live on the west coast? Do they live in California? California tends to have high mercury just floating in the air, coming from overseas due to the wildfires. So, different factors are at play. 

But generally, most people show high levels of aluminum right away. They may not show mercury right away, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have mercury in their tissues. It may not be actively excreted. So, most commonly, if you put them on a good detox program, eventually on their hair test, you will see the mercury rise. It may take time, but getting that out is really phenomenal. It also reboots the immune system. So, it can be profound, too. I do find, though, that it is still an extremely common issue.

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A listener might be afraid to go outside or even eat food because of what they’ll be exposed to. It’s crazy.

Well, that’s not the intention either. I do think that in order to thrive in these times, and of course, there are people who, for some reason, are completely unaffected by the toxins in our environment—or at least they seem to be—it has a lot to do with having a good mineral base, good functioning detox pathways and drainage pathways. But most people are affected in one way or another. 

It’s just about changing your habits. You don’t necessarily have to go on a full intensive detox program, but at least have simple habits like using the sauna regularly. It’s one of the best longevity hacks you can do. One of the main reasons for this is probably because of how much you actually sweat out your toxins. And then at least having some sort of binder. They saved my life personally, and they are today’s multivitamins. I don’t necessarily mean charcoal or bentonite, which can deplete you long term. 

But things like Modified Citrus Pectin or ZeoBind or the CellCore binders are great over a longer term basis, even if at a lower dose, just because they help give your body a chance to deal with everything that’s going on. They’ll make you feel amazing as well.

So, a binder picks up on the toxins and escorts them out of your system.

Binders are today’s multivitamin.

Essentially, it’s really simple. It forms a really strong bond with various toxins. Different toxins or binders have different affinities. Zeolite is better for mycotoxins in a moldy situation or ammonia if you have a lot of parasites. For example, modified citrus pectin is better for lead, mercury, and aluminum heavy metals. CellCore has binders for all kinds of purposes, from radiation to chemicals to biotoxins. 

But still, a binder can really make the difference in terms of supporting your detox pathways and giving you a chance to thrive and not feel weighed down by something you can’t quite put a finger on.

You cannot buy CellCore directly from the company; you have to go through a practitioner.

Yeah, it’s generally good to work under the direction of a practitioner. Although CellCore has created protocols that are kind of do-it-yourself in some ways, you do need a practitioner.

I’ve tried to buy from their website before, but I can’t make a purchase unless I enter a practitioner code. Can you tell me more about the sauna? Is it an infrared sauna? What’s your protocol? How often do you use it? What do you recommend our listeners do?

A binder can make the difference in supporting your detox pathways and allowing you to thrive and not feel weighed down by something you can’t pinpoint.

So, my personal protocol will always be different from someone else’s. Someone who’s more chronically ill will not tolerate saunas very well just because of its mobilizing effect. I try to get in there as much as I can three to four times a week, 15 to 20 minutes. I believe Dr. Klinghardt mentioned that you eliminate most of the toxins you’re gonna excrete through the skin in the first about 10 to 15 minutes of sweating. 

I keep it to that and then do it several times a week. Of course, there was that Finnish study, I believe, with men using the sauna, and they generally found that the more they used the sauna, the longer they lived. They had a decrease in all causes of mortality, directly proportional to how much they used the sauna. It was a really fascinating study. But if one is more sensitive and dealing with a lot of chronic symptoms, it’s good to be just once a week. 

Then, make sure again that you take toxin binders with it, making sure you’re also replenishing electrolytes. Something as simple as sea salt, lemon juice, and water can do the trick for some people.

What about infrared saunas? Because a sauna isn’t necessarily infrared, right? 

That’s true. Infrared saunas are fantastic. That’s what I do personally. They heat you more from the inside out and can sweat more quickly. You can also be in there without it being again, such as at such a high temperature. I haven’t seen much of the research on detoxification being improved with infrared saunas. However, the aspect of infrared light supporting the mitochondria is worth paying attention to. 

If you support the mitochondria, you’ll generally support detoxification as well.

If you support the mitochondria, you’ll generally support detoxification as well. That’s why CellCore is so hyper-focused on the mitochondria. However, most direct studies on toxins from the sauna are just measuring sweat. They don’t discriminate between infrared and dry saunas. So, not everyone has access to an infrared sauna. It’s ideal to have an infrared sauna at home. Again, you have the benefits of both sweating and infrared light. But even if it’s just a dry sauna from a gym, it can do the trick for people.

That’s cool. Awesome. Let’s discuss leaky gut a bit. What symptoms would appear if someone has it but doesn’t realize it?

That’s a great question. People may have no obvious symptoms. It’s a more subclinical thing. There is no obvious, real presentation. However, some warning signs that are a little more common are bloating, sensitivities to certain foods, brain fog, joint pain, inflammation, adverse reactions to supplements, and any kind of digestive diagnosis. So if you’re talking about IBS or Crohn’s or that kind of thing, it generally has that kind of leaky gut component into it. 

Of course, it’s not an official medical diagnosis. But it’s important to acknowledge it as an issue because of the clinical results it produces when you address it, just focusing on sealing the tight junctions. But even if you don’t show any obvious symptoms and think you’re perfectly fine, it’s still really helpful as a first step for people to work on the gut. Even if it’s as something as simple as ION Gut Support and then doing something like cleansing your colon gently with a colonic or oxy-powder from Global Healing can be very, very helpful as a first step because that is the place that our body wants to eliminate most of the toxins. 

The gut lining renews itself every week or every several days. It has a lot more resilience in handling toxin onslaught.

It wants to go from the cells into the extracellular matrix, lymphatics, and liver; then, the colon is generally the final place it wants to go to. The main reason is that the kidneys are a secondary route. Once you damage your nephrons and your kidneys, you don’t get them back. But the gut lining renews itself every week or every several days. It has a lot more resilience in handling toxin onslaught.

When did you get that diagnosis of having a leaky gut?

I never received a formal diagnosis of leaky gut. I just found that working on my gut health as a first step improved everything else.

You were also pretty constipated and could only tolerate four foods. Can you elaborate on that?

Sure, yeah. Everything I ate gave me brain fog. It took my brain fog from an 8 out of 10 to a 20 out of 10. I was limited to just garbanzo beans and white rice, which was all I could tolerate for whatever reason. Vegetables and meat and everything was screwing me up. I just couldn’t tolerate it. Within that as well, I was also unbelievably constipated. I’m talking about going to the bathroom once a week. That was one of my first symptoms. 

It was nightmarish because I felt like everything I ate was sitting in my stomach and rotting. It’s like that toxicity in my colon just spread to the rest of my body. It’s pretty brutal. It’s so funny how life-changing it can be to go to the bathroom twice to thrice daily as a first step. You feel like a completely different person.

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Wow. And you had these symptoms for what, seven years?

Yeah, six, seven years.

Did you ever feel like you were gonna take yourself out? Did you feel suicidal?

Yeah, I had a lot of thoughts like that. It’s hard to have anything to look forward to, or any goals to aspire to, ambitions, excitement for life, or passion when even doing the most basic tasks at home is a complete struggle. 

The most basic tasks were summoning all my might to get up, and the simplest thing was to put my clothes away. The absolute most basic stuff was just too much. When one feels disempowered, that’s sick. How do you even see a brighter day ahead? I’m grateful I was introduced to a belief in a higher power because that pulled me through it.

Tell me more about that.

I never received a formal diagnosis of leaky gut. I just found that working on my gut health as a first step improved everything else.

I had grown up originally in more of an atheistic household. But my father introduced me to several sacred texts from the East, such as the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. I also explored biblical literature. These kinds of texts really spoke to me. These symbolic stories about what it is to be moral and good and follow your purpose in the face of immense trials spoke to me, especially the Ramayana story—I say one of the avatars back in the day. 

He had his wife kidnapped by a demon king. Even though he was an avatar, he also had to suffer the most and was put through these unbelievable trials. He was supposed to be a prince of a kingdom and was sent into the jungle to rescue his wife. It led to a great war and a great battle. But these stories spoke to me. They were not about creating rigid beliefs but just reminded me of greater forces in our lives. 

Because of that, because of being able to keep that perspective alive within me, maybe there is a greater order that I can’t comprehend now. That’s what got me through. And that journey, that absolute struggle and that level of suffering was exactly what I needed. One to purify myself of the ways I used to be. But it also led to some of the greatest blessings and a really fulfilling line of work.

What was your darkest moment through all that?

I remember one time, right after doing some metal chelation, when I was meeting up with my father to have lunch. I needed to try to get out of the house. I mustered myself up and tried to drive over there. I remember as I was driving, I was absolutely terrified, having essentially a panic attack because it felt like I had no actual control. My mind was in a completely different dimension.

It’s hard to have anything to look forward to, or any goals to aspire to, ambitions, excitement for life, or passion when even doing the most basic tasks at home is a complete struggle.

I was driving super slow on the side of the highway, just in a very suspect manner, but I somehow made it over there. I’m just completely dazed and out of it. I sit down at the table with my dad, and I can barely even get a word out before I just start bawling my eyes out in the middle of a public place. I have no idea. I’ve been doing all this stuff. I’m getting nowhere. 

I have no idea what the hell I’m doing. I don’t know what to do anymore. He just sat there and was silent. He just gave me a hug. What do you even say in a situation like that?

Did you get some sign from the universe, from God, that this was temporary and you would get through this?

At that moment, no. But that was the moment that broke my will. Shortly after that, I resorted to praying my way out of it.

When you pray, do you feel a response from the Creator? Or do you just feel like it’s going into the ether somewhere these prayers?

The form of prayer that my father introduced me to is called Japa, which is a chanting Sanskrit mantra. I don’t often share this, but it is really close to my heart because I have had such unbelievable experiences with it. It’s an energetic language that is said to be “the language of the gods.” It is at least what I think it is. My limited understanding is that it is a language that creates different states of being. 

These mantric formulations heard by sages create certain states that, if a chance, embody those states. Again, this is my limited understanding of it. However, some Vedic scholars have made this information more available to the West, like Thomas Ashley-Farrand, Namdev, and Pandit. There are a lot of these different kinds of people who I’ve shared more simple mantra formulations with the West that are good for everyday use.

That’s what my father introduced me to. His own dark night of the soul led him to search every religion, which led him to find that. My best childhood friend essentially shared it with me. At a dire time, I picked a mantra about finding the right healing system for me. It’s known as the Dhanvantari Mantra. The exact intention is, “Please direct me to the right healing system or healing or healer.” 

Traditionally, you work with 21-day or 40-day disciplines. I took the last bit of energy I had and I just chanted every day for 40 days. At the end of the 40 days, I ended up on that Zoom call with the healers who introduced me to the right healing system. As crazy as that is, it’s esoteric and seems really out there. I have just repeatedly had situations like that unfold after a discipline that shifts in bizarre ways. 

What’s crazy about it is that there’s always this step-by-step physical explanation of, “Oh, well, I know this person. He invited me to do this through this mutual group. And so, I ended up at the Zoom call.” But yet, there are also these spiritual undertones, like the Creator orchestrating things. So that’s what’s so crazy to me about it. There’s always this logical productionist way of looking at it and the more unified, greater plan of looking at these things.

A materialist will always find a way to explain it away with science. And a spiritual person will always credit God for everything because it’s all miraculous. Tell us more about how you see all of this, the craziness you went through, as a series of blessings. Not everybody can see it that way when they’re going through that dark night of the soul or even afterward. Many can’t see the blessing in it. It’s really important to see it, but connecting all those dots is not easy.

It’s just being in that haze and that fog for my entire life and then becoming so sick led to a lot of things. One, it eventually led to a real compassion for my own suffering, which allowed me to understand the sufferings of others a lot better. That’s huge—being able to relate to where people are in really dark, twisted spaces. But also, I think it developed a lot of will because when you’re fighting just to live everyday life, you feel like you’re carrying this huge boulder of toxins. 

Becoming so sick led to a real compassion for my suffering, which allowed me to understand the sufferings of others a lot better.

It’s just like a constant battle to perform well, live a normal life, or be like everyone else. That developed a lot of willpower as well, and once I had a healthy body, it made it a lot easier to persist through challenges in other ways. But I think one of the main things about the medical system is money first and health second. There are a lot of really well-intentioned, beautiful-hearted doctors out there. I know some of them, and they are actually amazing people. 

However, the system in place that they function within is not geared towards creating lasting healing. Once you get stuck in that cycle, it’s really hard to leave it. Once you start getting on one medication, that leads to side effects, that leads to another, and next thing you know you’re on 10 medications and having regular surgeries and a cash cow for the medical system. 

For me to go through what I went through early with the support that I had from my family, to be able to make it through and just fully focus on researching and trying and exploring until I found a solution, made me just immensely grateful that I didn’t get caught in the medical system at a later time when I wouldn’t have had that support, when I would have had all this responsibility on me. It would have made it a lot more difficult to make the necessary changes or to never really experience what it’s like to have a healthy, toxin-free body.

I could have easily just never broken down, but I’d lived in that constant haze for my entire life and passed away and have just been sleepwalking through life. But this whole experience again made me have a full-blown awakening to wanting to contemplate life, understand God, understand myself, and have such a contrast of experiences from so dark to so absolutely beautiful and profound. I’m just super grateful for it, and I’m super grateful that I figured it out to a good degree. 

Now, of course, I’m still learning. This is still a never-ending learning process, but it’s great. I love performing at a higher level now athletically than I did in high school when I was supposed to be on a competitive team. Or having all the energy to follow artistic pursuits, be married, live in a new state, and have adventures makes life a big adventure.

Do you have the sense that you agreed to some sort of soul contract that you would have these seven years of hell that you had to go through and come through on the other side and then help all these people with their toxicity and detoxing and improving their lives?

My biggest struggle was feeling like I was already out of my body. So, a lot of my spiritual practice for a long time was about embodiment.

It’s certainly possible. I don’t know if it’s a contract I wrote or if it was just God’s plan for me. I don’t really know.

It’s the same thing either way. If you make an agreement with God to do this mission of getting through this and then helping others through it, whether it’s a contract, a soul contract, or just here’s God’s plan that he hands to you. I was just wondering if you had the sense that this was planned prior to your incarnating—if you felt that.

Absolutely, it feels faded. I was always doing the best I could, and it seemed like greater forces were at play.

When you are chanting, do you get into transcendental states? Do you have out-of-body experiences? What happens when you feel a greater sense or connection to the divine?

For me, my biggest struggle was again feeling like I was already out of my body. A lot of my spiritual practice for a long time was about embodiment. How much could I feel within my body and bring my spirit into my body? I think detox plays a big role in allowing people to land within their bodies. But chanting for me is a mixture of experiences. It’s a visceral experience, energy flowing through my meridians, which varies from mantra to mantra. 

But with a lot of practice, it’s just extremely noticeable. It feels great. When I’m done with my practice and sitting in a more receptive, empty posture, there is this emptying process and this kind of revealing process; I guess I’m just trying to see more of God and less of my own mind. That’s one way to describe it.

To switch back to the hair mineral analysis and all that, what would be the protocol for somebody intrigued by this conversation to get tested and see what toxicity levels they’re dealing with? What’s their next step? How do they know what test to sign up for, and how do they work with you to see if that fits them?

I use Analytical Research Labs for hair testing. It’s the one I’ve found to be most accurate. Many of us in the community have done some testing in terms of repeat samples from the same person at the same time and just found more consistent results with Analytical Research Labs. Trace Elements is a close second. Trace elements have other benefits. You see more minerals and such. 

Once a person works with me, it’s as simple as filling out in-depth assessment forms. I try to get a good picture of a person’s history and possible toxin exposures.

But I don’t recommend doctor’s data and other laboratories. They don’t have good standardized procedures or like the body of research that these hair testing labs do. Now, if people want to work with me, they can go through my website and schedule a strategy session with me to explore their case and see if it’s a right fit for my healing programs, have a good discussion, and see what the right direction might be. 

But once a person works with me, it’s as simple as filling out in-depth assessment forms. I try to get a good picture of a person’s history and possible toxin exposures. I have these really in-depth symptom assessment forms that help me identify how likely drainage dysfunction is, how likely leaky gut is, and how likely stomach issues are versus mold exposure versus a parasite issue. It helped me chart a good course. 

Then, they also will send a really simple envelope with a small amount of hair to a laboratory, and within a week, I have the results, and we’re getting the ball rolling. Typically, I break my programs down into three basic pillars. I have the mineral balancing component, which I’ve explained and elaborated on. That’s about rebuilding the body from the ground up for the most energy over an extended period. 

Then, I layer different detox phases on top of that. It’s the second pillar. This way, you’re not taking everything at once and trying to do everything at once, but instead just going more a step-by-step order of operations fashion, which may be healing leaky gut, cleansing the colon, rejuvenating the liver, supporting bile flow, supporting the actual processing of the toxins, supporting the lymphatics, etc. 

Some people need some immune support. I won’t get too much into the topic, but Dr. Judy Mikovits’ research on human endogenous retroviruses is a very fascinating rabbit hole. But, some of the most chronically ill people benefit from some immune modulation. Then, typically, I’ll do some level of parasite cleansing as well. Of course, again, it has to be step by step and in the right way with the right tools. 

Beyond that, we may use some really deeper intracellular detoxification tools, which may be Dr. Pompa’s stuff—CytoDetox or high-dose melatonin, Nrf2 upregulators, which are things like broccoli sprouts. The entire time, the foundation is mineral balancing to keep rebuilding the body while you go through different phases. 

I’m a big believer in teaching people how these things work. I don’t like giving people programs and not explaining anything and letting them figure it out.

The third and final pillar: I’m a big believer in teaching people how these things work. I don’t like giving people programs and not explaining anything and letting them figure it out. What I wish I had was that really deep mentorship that helped me understand what I was doing, such that I could take the tools, work with them over a long period, and continue to make progress. That’s what I try to share with people.

Awesome. How long does your program usually go for?

I have different lengths. I have between three and nine months. The real transformative stuff is the nine months; I take them through all the phases.

Cool. Alright, so your website is?

Jyoti Mineral Balancing. You’ll also get there with just jyotimb.com.

Is there a social platform you’re most active on?

Instagram. My Instagram is @kyle_peche. I’m always sharing updates and whatever podcasts I do, like this and other kinds of content.

Awesome. Kyle, thank you so much. Thank you for sharing, bearing your soul to my listener and sharing with candor and vulnerability. Thank you for all the great work you do in the world to help people heal.

Thank you so much for having me on. Great questions. It was a pleasure.

And thank you, listener. Thank you for being a light in the world as well. We’ll catch you in the next episode. In the meantime, have a fantastic week. I’m your host, Stephan Spencer, signing off.

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  • Begin daily binding protocol with quality binders like modified citrus pectin or CellCore products to help escort toxins out of my system. Take them consistently, even at a lower dose, to support ongoing detoxification and give my body a chance to handle environmental toxins.
  • Schedule 15-20 minute infrared sauna sessions 3-4 times per week. Remember to take toxin binders before sessions and replenish electrolytes afterward with a simple mix of sea salt, lemon juice, and water.
  • Start using high-quality fulvic products like ION Gut Support or Matrix Minerals to reduce my glyphosate load. These products can help improve gut health, reduce sensitivities, and support neurotransmitter production.
  • Add silica supplementation through products like Biosil or horsetail tincture to help reduce aluminum levels. 
  • Begin with gentle colon cleansing using products like Oxy-Powder while supporting gut barrier function. Make this the foundation before moving on to more advanced detox protocols.
  • Get hair mineral analysis through Analytical Research Labs (ARL) or Trace Elements to establish baseline mineral levels and identify potential toxicities. 
  • Follow detox order of operations. Start with reducing glyphosate and aluminum exposure, then support drainage pathways before moving to more advanced detox protocols. Avoid skipping steps or trying multiple protocols simultaneously.
  • Ensure my colon, lymphatics, and liver pathways function well before starting any intense detoxification. Begin with gentle supports and gradually increase based on my body’s response.
  • Focus on rebuilding mineral levels as the foundation of healing, allowing my body to have the energy needed for natural detoxification. 
  • Connect with Kyle Peche. Visit jyotimb.com to schedule a strategy session. Follow on Instagram @kyle_peche for regular updates and content.

About the Host

STEPHAN SPENCER

Since coming into his own power and having a life-changing spiritual awakening, Stephan is on a mission. He is devoted to curiosity, reason, wonder, and most importantly, a connection with God and the unseen world. He has one agenda: revealing light in everything he does. A self-proclaimed geek who went on to pioneer the world of SEO and make a name for himself in the top echelons of marketing circles, Stephan’s journey has taken him from one of career ambition to soul searching and spiritual awakening.

Stephan has created and sold businesses, gone on spiritual quests, and explored the world with Tony Robbins as a part of Tony’s “Platinum Partnership.” He went through a radical personal transformation – from an introverted outlier to a leader in business and personal development.

About the Guest

Kyle Peche

After fully recovering from 7 years of chronic fatigue, brain fog, panic attacks, and dozens of other symptoms, Kyle Peche began to help others heal as well. Using full body detoxification combined with Mineral-Balancing, he helps chronically ill clients recover and ‘normal people’ reach heightened physical, emotional, & cognitive health.

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